i'm not an expert on chuck hagel. he did sponsor numerous bills and co-sponsored numerous bills, some of which related to military suicide and veterans' care among other things. i apologize, i'm not fully up to speed on his legislative record. hisso don't know about educational background. host: did you gather anything aside from iran and other topics about specifics especially when it comes to budgetary issues, which is one of the reasons president obama chose him? guest: it was clear from the hearing, some of the challenges he would face if he is to become the secretary. the number one challenge will be the budget. what is not surprising was there were a number of members to yesterday who said as you go through dealing with the budget challenges, don't touch my priority area. toat is just one added factor an incredibly complex and challenging budgetary rubrics cuba and he's going to have to solve should become the secretary. -- budgetary rubics cube. and how he would interact with them through the process. host: wil